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 01-30-2007, 18:07 Post: 139346
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My experience with Norton and McAfee products goes way back, and it's all bad. I'd never infect any of my machines with any of their bloatware ever again.

That said, ZoneAlarm is pretty good - but is not terribly user friendly if/when you want to tailor your protection outside it's "automatic" mode. I used to swear by AVG, but I'm disturbed by it's falling performance ratings. When my AVG subscriptions expire, I'm going to strongly consider dropping them in favor of either NOD32 or AVIRA.

Kapersky is said to be good, I don't know anything about BitDefender or StopZilla. But SpySweeper is not an anti-virus application. It's in the anti-malware category, which should be used in conjunction WITH an anti-virus application.

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 01-30-2007, 19:51 Post: 139358
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Removal techniques vary with which version you want to clean up after. Might be a good idea to start with the link below:

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 01-30-2007, 23:24 Post: 139372
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They told you wrong Cutter. That's their MSICUU tool, be careful. It only works on software that was installed with MSI (Windows Installer), but it's a shotgun approach. While attempting to fix one stalled MSI installation or removal, it may damage another MSI-installed application. Second, there are different versions of MSICUU for different operating systems. The wrong tool for the job can screw things up too.

If Norton software was not installed by MSI, I don't recommend fooling with MSICUU

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 01-31-2007, 07:57 Post: 139379
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Be careful with that one as well, as it too takes the shotgun approach. If removes not only NAV, but any and all Symantec software from your computer. Plus, it only removes what Symantec WANTS removed. It does NOT completely eradicate all traces of NAV from your PC.

The best way to do it is to go into your Windows registry and manually remove every single NAV item in there. For those that are uncomfortable working in the registry, you can pay to have it done by anyone with a Microsoft Certification ticket. Less expensive - but less efficient - would be a competent registry cleaning utility. The selection of which one to use pretty much depends upon the depth of experience of the person using it.

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I may have tried RM over the years, can't remember. But if I have, I was apparently not impressed - or I'd still have it. Most of the registry utilities are little more than brooms, sweeping out broken/abandoned links. If an unwanted registry entry has a valid link to something elsewhere in/on the computer, most general purpose cleaning utilities will ignore them.

If unwanted registry items are linked to a remnant in the Windows directory, basic registry cleaners can be viable tools. In those cases, use the Windows search engine (or Windows Explorer) to weed out files/folders you know you don't want anymore. THEN run the registry cleaner to detect/remove any registry links that were broken by your directory deletions.

But persistent software like most of the Symantec stuff often intentionally create links to OTHER registry items. In this case manually cleaning the Windows directory can't help, AND a general purpose registry cleaner will pass right over them as "valid" links. In these cases, there's little choice but to dive into the registry yourself and pull the weeds by hand - or hire it done by a professional.

Last resort, reformat the hard drive. That's the ultimate registry cleaning technique.

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